I think I know who you are lol. Congrats on your acceptance!I think UBC just filled spots. I received acceptance offer from UBC last Thursday @Disneyy
I think I know who you are lol. Congrats on your acceptance!I think UBC just filled spots. I received acceptance offer from UBC last Thursday @Disneyy
I did.Anyone got an email from Oregon about how they’re going to send interview invites?
They haven’t sent the offer? I feel like the Nov date will be for filling their waitlist spots. I don’t knowAnyone got an email from Oregon about how they’re going to send interview invites?
Well their email says its for in person interviews, would be kinda rough if they are requiring travel to in person interviews just for waitlist
So this email is for the waitlist?? Not for an actual spot?OHSU's interviews just for waitlist spots are so amazing!
Spots filled are often open again as someone fall through in general in all programs?
Nothing yet. But in the words of the great philosopher Tupac Shakur, “Keep ya head up.”Anyone got an invitation from OHSU on Friday or today??
I am wondering even they changed their mind or they actually sent out invitations for 4-6 candidates!!!!For clarity, did anyone get the OHSU invite email or was it just a giant ruse?
Kudos. Least also know wasn’t a ployI was offered an OHSU interview this morning! So excited!!!
no invite eitherFor clarity, did anyone get the OHSU invite email or was it just a giant ruse?
Just out of curiosity - are you from the Oregon area?I was offered an OHSU interview this morning! So excited!!!
Pretty sure all schools have chosen their residentsAny updates on Case Western? I am assuming they haven’t sent out invitations yet, anyone has any insight?
Any updates on Case Western? I am assuming they haven’t sent out invitations yet, anyone has any insight?
Wait you turned it down bc you assumed all program had already filled their spots and they are far behind? 😅Case just called me too. Turned down the interview. I assumed all programs had already filled their spots but they seem very far behind.
That's just Case doing their own thing. All endo interviews used to be this time of year but the whole rolling admissions situation made every program creep their interview dates up earlier and earlier (to grab the best candidates).Case just called me too. Turned down the interview. I assumed all programs had already filled their spots but they seem very far behind.
No, I turned it down because I have an acceptance already.Wait you turned it down bc you assumed all program had already filled their spots and they are far behind? 😅
There’s no such a thing as bad candidates. Most people who apply to endo are qualified so I’m assuming they don’t need to have the best of the best. They want to train students and make them endodontists periodCan anyone provide insight on why Case is always so late? Many other programs keep pushing interview dates up to not miss out on good candidates.
Yeah, I should correct my statement to "the best candidates on paper" because there are way more qualified applicants than slots.There’s no such a thing as bad candidates. Most people who apply to endo are qualified so I’m assuming they don’t need to have the best of the best. They want to train students and make them endodontists period
I think it's a person to person basis. I didn't take it and was accepted. I had a PD reply to me and say that it was very valuable to take and certain scores increased acceptance. The PD was from a school that doesn't accept the ADAT but they said they still looked at it as a positive. Taking it allows you to apply to more schools which increases your chances. A lot of pros and cons to taking it and not taking it. Good luckHi everyone, I have a question, do you know anyone got accepted without having ADAT??? I am wondering should I consider retaking the exam because it is gonna expire for next cycle or I have a chance with applying without having ADAT?
Any recommendations is appreciated 🙏
depends where you want to apply to. If you are just going to apply to programs that don't require it, I wouldn't retake just because it has expired. I think you can still report it? If you are applying to schools that require it, then maybe consider taking it again. But also who requires it and who doesn't can change next cycleHi everyone, I have a question, do you know anyone got accepted without having ADAT??? I am wondering should I consider retaking the exam because it is gonna expire for next cycle or I have a chance with applying without having ADAT?
Any recommendations is appreciated 🙏
Most useless crap . No one cares about the adat. It is not at all representative of your knowledgeHi everyone, I have a question, do you know anyone got accepted without having ADAT??? I am wondering should I consider retaking the exam because it is gonna expire for next cycle or I have a chance with applying without having ADAT?
Any recommendations is appreciated 🙏
haha, wait until you are taking the written part, a requirement for residency graduation, of the endo board and then the oral part of the endo board if you want to become board certified, like i do. all non-sense memorization. typical question of the written part: in 2010, John doe did an experiment on rats to learn about X, what did he find..so stupid.Most useless crap . No one cares about the adat. It is not at all representative of your knowledge
I mean, that's not why... Yes we all hate studying the literature but did they not tell you why they're pushing for more endodontists to be board certified?haha, wait until you are taking the written part, a requirement for residency graduation, of the endo board and then the oral part of the endo board if you want to become board certified, like i do. all non-sense memorization. typical question of the written part: in 2010, John doe did an experiment on rats to learn about X, what did he find..so stupid.
NB: in endo research, John doe's study in 2010 might have contradicting results to that of John smith's in 2012. in addition, John Doe's study in 2010 might have contradicting result to another of his study in 1998. To be an astute endodontist by ABE standard, you need to know the author name, the result and the year, if you have energy...all can be googled easily these days
No offense, dentists try prove that they are just as smart as the physicians, by memorizing random craps like how many times does an average human being swallow per day
no invite hereFor clarity, did anyone get the OHSU invite email or was it just a giant ruse?
The reason why endo has the lowest percentage because those a%^holes make the process so painful to complete...too much sacrifice for little gain. Most full time private practice endodontists are making 500+k annual...who has time to take a few days off from work aka losing money, not to mention 3-4 months of studying after work to pass the exam.I mean, that's not why... Yes we all hate studying the literature but did they not tell you why they're pushing for more endodontists to be board certified?
The residency requirement to take the written portion prior to graduation is newer and also part of the same push to get more board certification overall. This doesn't affect just academics, it affects your whole status as a specialist (and compensation rate accordingly).
Every specialty has to justify its own existence to the ADA every once in a while. You have to have a certain percentage of board-certified practitioners or the specialty is at risk of losing its status (endo almost did in the 90s). Medical specialties have board-certification rates of >80%. Endodontics is at like 25% (one of the lowest amongst dental specialties). What's to separate you as an endodontist from a GP that is proficient at endo and can google things? This is legitimately what the AAE has to defend every time specialty accreditation rolls around, they use the ABE standards and number of diplomates as one justification.
Oh I agree with all of that and wish some things would be changed. It's trending better though. It used to be 20 cases, now it's 5. And you can take the written portion as a resident when the material is still fresh. Just got to wait for some of the older folks to retire lolThe reason why endo has the lowest percentage because those a%^holes make the process so painful to complete...too much sacrifice for little gain. Most full time private practice endodontists are making 500+k annual...who has time to take a few days off from work aka losing money, not to mention 3-4 months of studying after work to pass the exam.
Ortho and perio already dropped the porfolio part, why cant we...you can fail the porfolio part because you didnt use the terms/ keywords that they want, come on... and then have to wait a year....
I dont believe being able to quote random studies from random guys with random and contradicting results will make us better endodontist by any means. they even quiz candidates on how PMNs, mast cells, ameloblastoma stuffs look under microscopes...come on, even dental students dont remember those after their exams...
Im taking it because i want to boost my ego and to fulfill the promise that i made to my PD...other endodontists couldnt care less
i dont think you would see much change anytime soon. most of the examiners/ ABE directors are foreign trained...with lots of degrees after their names but cant practice off campus freely....they usually have all time they need to think of those random things/ make up random clinical senarios to quiz you...Oh I agree with all of that and wish some things would be changed. It's trending better though. It used to be 20 cases, now it's 5. And you can take the written portion as a resident when the material is still fresh. Just got to wait for some of the older folks to retire lol
If I don't finish it within a few years of graduating, I doubt I'll do it at all.
This is what they tell you in residency. The actual process is a nightmare and not worth it at all. That’s their own fault. The questions don’t reflect what you know. It’s more of a game. When the prep is more focused on how to conduct yourself and how to approach the process and less on the actual knowledge you know it’s an issue. A lot of egos are involved. So don’t let them convince you it’s out fault our numbers are down. My Ortho buddy did his board certification online.I mean, that's not why... Yes we all hate studying the literature but did they not tell you why they're pushing for more endodontists to be board certified?
The residency requirement to take the written portion prior to graduation is newer and also part of the same push to get more board certification overall. This doesn't affect just academics, it affects your whole status as a specialist (and compensation rate accordingly).
Every specialty has to justify its own existence to the ADA every once in a while. You have to have a certain percentage of board-certified practitioners or the specialty is at risk of losing its status (endo almost did in the 90s). Medical specialties have board-certification rates of >80%. Endodontics is at like 25% (one of the lowest amongst dental specialties). What's to separate you as an endodontist from a GP that is proficient at endo and can google things? This is legitimately what the AAE has to defend every time specialty accreditation rolls around, they use the ABE standards and number of diplomates as one justification.