jagarmar92
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Yes. Same here.I’m just joking around but I think a lot of people are sitting at zero interviews right now.
Yes. Same here.I’m just joking around but I think a lot of people are sitting at zero interviews right now.
Osteopathic Med School
Low-tier IM Residency Program -->chief year
Comlex 43x, 49x, 48x (below average as passing is 400 for comlex and national average is 550)
LOR: 4 GI
3 publications with 5 pending acceptance
20+ abstracts
Applying very broadly. Trying to figure out what I can do to maximize my chances with very low board scores.
Can I get access to last years GI cycle spreadsheet?Hello Hello! Its feeling like that time of year, once again. I'll be applying for the first time with the rest of you and figured now is as good of a time as any to give the people what they want.
Feel free to post your stats and the inevitable
"what are my chances" questions as well as info on programs, interviews the gambit. I'm posting last years excel sheet, but think we should make a concerted effort to update it this year to increase the sample size.
Best of luck to all of you.
CURRENT {2022-23) GI Cycle App Spreadsheet
LAST YEAR'S (2021-22) GI Cycle App Spreadsheet
Last years spread sheet is not mine to control (and I wasn't the one who locked it). You can see some of the data on our current cycle spreadsheet, it is located in a unmodifiable tabCan I get access to last years GI cycle spreadsheet?
Where is @ShiShiMD?
May anyone comment on Wake Forest Vs. Henry Ford overall. Having a hard time determining how to rank between the two (overall training). Thank you
Really hard to say. Some PDs may welcome it. Others may find it annoying since you would expect an LOR from the PD anyways.Does it help if residency program directors call GI Fellowship PDs about candidates (assuming they don't know each other)?
Wake is way more academic then HF. The rotations at wake are much more teased out, ie you have rotations completely dedicated to reading capsules, to motility. These experiences are more bundled together at HF and is more realistic to how you would perform in a community setting and also the Detroit population is much more diverse. So take that for what you will. If you want to focus on a specific area and want to do academics you should pick Wake over Henry Ford.May anyone comment on Wake Forest Vs. Henry Ford overall. Having a hard time determining how to rank between the two (overall training). Thank you
Props to you for not giving up. My first attempt, middle of list but very content and happy I matched.Matched at my #3. This is my fifth attempt. Please never give up even if people don’t believe in you. Only you know yourself and your accolades best.
there's some programs listed in the excel sheet, but I would honestly just google it, there aren't that manyAny help with the list of non-accredited hepatology fellowships? Thanks!
Hi, I'm a first year medical student at a US MD school who has a preliminary interest in gastroenterology.
I'm still years away from the process, but during my first four years of medical school, outside of studying, what things should I be focusing on to be a successful applicant down the line? I will try to pursue some sort of GI research over the summer but what are some things that you all as applicants would recommend?
I don't want to put all my eggs in this basket, but I'm also aware it is a very competitive fellowship and so I want to at least have a gameplan in mind. Thank you so much
Hi, yes you can. I got into residency and fellowship on an EAD card.Hi Everyone! I have enjoyed reading and learning from everyone of you on here.
I wish to find out; can someone get in to fellowship with just an EAD card, instead of a J1 or H1B visa?
Thank you so much for your time.
Hi,Hi, I'm a first year medical student at a US MD school who has a preliminary interest in gastroenterology.
I'm still years away from the process, but during my first four years of medical school, outside of studying, what things should I be focusing on to be a successful applicant down the line? I will try to pursue some sort of GI research over the summer but what are some things that you all as applicants would recommend?
I don't want to put all my eggs in this basket, but I'm also aware it is a very competitive fellowship and so I want to at least have a gameplan in mind. Thank you so much
Also a med student interested in GI. One follow-up question to this is, how reliable is the re-applying process if one fails secure a GI fellowship the first go around? I've heard you can do a chief year, strengthen your app and apply again. Essentially people say that if you want to get into GI, it will happen, but you may need to keep trying and reapply. Is that accurate, one can just keep reapplying and still have a chance a third time, for example?Hi,
1) Obtain great USMLE scores
2) During residency, be the best resident you can be. Be dependent, punctual, diligent, and take no shortcuts. Attending letters of recommendations are important for fellowship match
3) Get involved in research early on during your residency. Not easy to do but very possible.
4) Get to know the GI fellows well during residency as well as the GI program director. Don't brown-nose, just introduce yourself, let them know of your passion in GI, see if you can shadow while they're scoping, ask to join in any ongoing research with them, etc
5) Several years down the line, we hope to hear good news from you regarding the GI fellowship match
Also a med student interested in GI. One follow-up question to this is, how reliable is the re-applying process if one fails secure a GI fellowship the first go around? I've heard you can do a chief year, strengthen your app and apply again. Essentially people say that if you want to get into GI, it will happen, but you may need to keep trying and reapply. Is that accurate, one can just keep reapplying and still have a chance a third time, for example?
Also a med student interested in GI. One follow-up question to this is, how reliable is the re-applying process if one fails secure a GI fellowship the first go around? I've heard you can do a chief year, strengthen your app and apply again. Essentially people say that if you want to get into GI, it will happen, but you may need to keep trying and reapply. Is that accurate, one can just keep reapplying and still have a chance a third time, for example?
Actually, every word on that post was true. I am not sure why I would troll. Also, yes the list is 50 consults between new and follow-ups. It is a community program, GI gets consulted for mild pancreatitis sometimes. Chill bro.This seems both like a troll post but also a weird thing to troll about. Not sure what you are asking, (what you are asking for seems weird tbh). If your PD decides how many spots they get because of what the consensus of student doctor network says than they should probably not be PD. This also doesn’t seem like a 3rd year level writing, and the number of patients on the consult list seems unreasonable (10% of patients in the hospital are consulted to GI, every day, yeah right)
Why so angry? If you cannot help just ignore the post. Just because something you think you can't achieve, doesn't mean it's not achievable. And what is the big deal with sharing the schedule? lol. Programs post it on their websites most of the time.Lol. You have 50 patients with mild pancreatitis? Why can’t you sign off on them in 2 seconds if you are required to see the consult. If you have a 50 person consult census consistently in a 500 bed hospital something has gone terribly wrong in your system and it won’t be fixed by adding another fellow.
Explain to me how you hope we can “help you convince your PD for the 3rd spot.” Do you think it’s really that easy? You’re a third year resident, do you think the PD/admin are looking to you for advice as to whether an additional spot is needed? Do you think they care what SDN has to say on the matter especially with no context or actual detail. Moreover, do you think it’s that easy to add a spot? You realize an additional spot requires additional funding ACGME funding, right?
Moreover, you want people to share their schedule with you for no specific reason? Your whole post is absolutely a joke and if it’s not then you have no meaningful understanding of how fellowship structures function. Good luck with your application. Best to you and your program.
Why so angry? If you cannot help just ignore the post. Just because something you think you can't achieve, doesn't mean it's not achievable. And what is the big deal with sharing the schedule? lol. Programs post it on their websites most of the time.
I understand all that you have said, and I already took care of it Chill bro.
You are absolutely right and much smarter than me. Your wisdom and vast experience made my day. No! made my whole life <3Lol. Not angry, just baffled and chuckling at your naivety. It’s not that getting another spot is unachievable, it certainly is. It’s just abundantly clear that you don’t have a clue as to how to go about getting it, starting with the recognition that a resident wouldn’t be the one responsible for getting a new fellowship spot in the first place. You are correct, they do post sample schedules, so if that’s good enough and you know it, why did you ask for it?
You are absolutely right and much smarter than me. Your wisdom and vast experience made my day. No! made my whole life QUOTE]
Assuming this guy isn't trolling....We do what we can.
The last charting outcomes is from 2018 with match rates that are much much higher for MDs than DOs. While it is possible that a few select prior DO programs favor DO applicants and that you would be exposed to those programs as a DO, I think the statement that "the trend is there" is wishful thinkingHello,
Long time lurker. I just had a general question or pattern I have been noticing. I see that some programs have applicants that are accepted but have minimal to no research in their resume that are from Osteopathic medical schools (DO). I personally know of 2-3 in specific programs that were also accepted and have 1 case report or nothing at all. I am curious as to why this is ( is there a political agenda pressuring programs to accept osteopathic candidates just to balance out MD’s?). I just find it interesting so many other applicants have had to present countless abstracts and publish papers to be a competitive applicant. I am an osteopath resident myself interested in GI and I am just wondering why this is (Do I have an upper hand now this pattern is emerging?). Any input would be appreciated. I understand there are many factors involved, but I know of more competitive MD candidates with more research , good letters, great resident etc. that was not chosen over the osteopathic candidates. I feel like this is a taboo topic but the trend is there..
Chief year is usually decided in 2nd year, so you can’t just suddenly choose to do a chief year after not matching. Also, while you can continue to reapply and people certainly do, I wouldn’t call it reliable in that you are guaranteed to get in eventually just by forcing your application in the mix. If you didn’t make it in the first year, as mentioned it’s important to be constant improving your application in a meaningful way. But if you are a med student, just focus on making it in the first time, otherwise life starts getting more complicated.
Not entirely accurate. There are academic residency programs (albeit not upper eschelon) who struggle to fill chief spots. The reasons for this are not hard to understand. It is not unheard of for programs to back fill a remining one or two chief spots with an unmatched candidate. it is a problem for a residency program to have an unfilled chief sport from a funding perspective- if the program can run without that chief, then the hospital won't fund it. Anywhere with a VA often has the ability to expand chief positions rapidly. A clinical chief, a PSQI chief, etc.