From pharmacy to nursing?
U know pharmacist is doctor but nurse isn't doctor and this title is very imp
this was my train of thought...less school compared to medicine but similar earning potential/job prospect as pharmacist.
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We offer exceptional employment benefits including medical, dental, and vision plans, generous paid vacations and holidays, excellent retirement savings and investment plans, continuing education, and reduced fee and scholarship programs. THIS IS NOT AN H1- B OPPORTUNITY Responsibilities This position is will provide independent advanced level nurse practitioner clinical expertise to patients and their families on an on-going basis. This includes the management of chronic stable medical conditions, routine care, acute or critical care, and medical and specialty protocols (e.g. chemotherapy) as defined by standardized procedures for your specific department. This may include non-invasive or invasive procedures, surgical procedures, including operative first assist per approved standardized procedures as identified by the list available from the Medical Staff Office. Patient management decisions will be independent where appropriate after assessment of the patient and interdependent with consultation with an attending or other member of the team. NPs are expected to act as an expert resource person for health care providers including nurses, residents, and other ancillary staff. Provides direct patient care to a diversified patient population. Applies knowledge, experience and judgment to determine the importance of a situation, set priorities, and use abstract thought to evaluate clinical situations. Participates in patient and staff education. Demonstrates leadership skills. Demonstrates accountability for own practices as defined by the Nurse Practice Act. |
I wouldn’t do medicine either. Medicine is also sadly on the decline. BLS is 4% job growth for the next ten years. Better than pharmacy, but not by much. Physicians are getting replaced by mid levels in emergency room, critical care and some other IM fields as well as primary care.
Or Pharmacy to PA school, because COVID-19 has negatively impacted the physician job market. Job growth is 4% now. Unless you want to practice overseas, MD is hands down better.
Get a nursing degree and build experience to become an NP. Probably the more efficient way to practice actual medicine.
NPs are preferred over PAs I heard. I looked into this and asked alot of NPs and PAs. They have very similar job duties but NPs have less paper work and are much better organized than PAs as far as the profession goes. I heard some PAs talk about their profession like how we talk about ours lol
Even with PA schools, you still have to consider the potential of retaking some of prereqs and GRE which may be another 1-2 years before you can apply.
why would you load the boat with more debt as a NP? You will make less....CRNA yes go for it
Looks like it may take about 8 years to be CRNA but average salary is $160k so... probably worth it haha
I really thought they made more than that - I know CRNA's who make more than PCP MD's.
Where do you work?
www.bls.gov
Midsized desirable city in the southeast. I have some good friends who are pa’s in my Ed. I make more than them with much better benefits.Where do you work?
At least PAs have much better job outlook than us lol
Physician Assistants : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Physician assistants examine, diagnose, and treat patients under the supervision of a physician.
Every healthcare professional that requires a degree has a better outlook than us. Seriously, I will send the 1st person a $100 if you can find one according to the BLS.Where do you work?
At least PAs have much better job outlook than us lol
Physician Assistants : Occupational Outlook Handbook: : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Physician assistants examine, diagnose, and treat patients under the supervision of a physician.
8 years for CRNA? no...6 years, you would most likely be accepted into a BSN program as a 3rd year
What's "un logic" if one wants to have a career in healthcare, nursing makes more sense than pharmacy. It's not an easy ride but pharmacy is in a hole that it might not recover from.
I am in same thinking...
I am the opposite. I made the change from nursing to pharmacy.
RN2RPh my pharmacy is getting to be more and more like nursing. Has your work place made the transition to value based care yet? If it has what type pf position do you have? Staff pharmacist, Supervisor or Manager Pharmacist, Clinical Pharmacist, Clinical Pharmacist Specialist. I went from nursing to pharmacy to and it used to be a dream job and it has turned to pure misery. Management trying to prove Value.
Who doesn't want "Value" right? At my workplace, there are only 2 streams of revenue: billing for patient visits (clinic) & selling drug (pharmacy). Revenue from clinic visits is enough to fund about 4-5 FTE and my pharmacy fund the rest which is around....30 FTE + all the operation cost. My management can try to prove whatever Value they want, they just have to have pharmacists to run the pharmacy. People usually argue that it is cheaper to hire a NP over a Pharmacist. Well, at my institution, with the latest contract, NP gets paid just as good as pharmacist. So no more financial incentive for hiring NP over RPh hehe.
www.careinnovations.org
I am confused since your reference shows PharmD is a part of the work flow ??? I dont really see any "innovation " in those HTN care order set. RN has been working with similar things such as Insulin Sliding scale or Heparin Drip forever. What if the patient conditions don't fall into any of the parameters (for eg: allergic to benazepril) ? RN can't make the decision when things don't fit the algorithms.Where I am they only only hiring RN's in these clinics at this time likely cause they are cheaper than both Rph and NP. It is miserable having to watch other RPh in the department losing their livelihood since their job is being eliminated. I do not have to work so I can sustain the environment plus I have multiple opportunities that they do not have since I am both a RN and RPh. It is sad watching all of them. The new grads are sad too and owe so much in student loans. They did not know they they changed the curriculum to be like nursing and clinical nurse specialist roles. I plan to retire before 2030 but if I lost my job today I am good. That is the difference on why the environment is sustainable for me. The students really believe it is clinical pharmacy. When management says to me "you are not going to have a job at all." I laugh and say "I am glad I do not have to work" and they respond and say "I wish I could say that." I just smile. These new value based payments models will likely be in effect by 2030.
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RN Role Reimagined: How Empowering Registered Nurses Can Improve Primary Care - California Health Care Foundation
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Looking to "share the care" within their care team—especially with nursing team members—but aren't sure how?
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