Well then the bolded is a very good sign. Seems like this is a hustle position where you can make bank if you want to, but you'll be earning it. I'm sure he doesn't want to split his inpatient gig if he's making $600k+ doing that alone and very little to no outpatient, I wouldn't want to split that either!
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Pretty low hourly you'd need to see a few over 9 to make it decent hourly. I personally hate sitting around feeling like I am a captive I like more flexibility and ability to control my schedule. But, if you use this to grow a PP doing OP work on the side it could be lucrative and create some steady income while you grow your other practive.
Kind of my thought. I'm pretty sure I can bump this a bit higher. So if at 2200/shift, I could work 3 shifts a week and turn this into a 300k/year job. I'd have an hour to respond to any consult request, so I could theoretically stagger an outpatient schedule and double dip during the day. Figure three days of chillin at home, knocking out a bunch of outpatient appointments and clearing 2k a day on top of that..doesnt seem bad. That set up seems like it would be good for 600k a year.
Probably more than general surgery.
This is absolutely not the norm and kind of pointless to talk about since it’s very far outside the norm. Your friend is making 275/hr guaranteed to see 2 patients an hour telepsych. That is not the norm at all. Furthermore you friend works 12 hours a day, I wouldn’t call that the dream. He’s essentially doing a little more than 2 full time jobs in one day, again not the norm at all
I'm getting more than this as a resident moonlighting in a clinic. It's not hard.
Agree with above, the salary sounds like a dream but the set up sounds pretty miserable to me. 12 hour days 5 days a week sounds awful.
Why do you assume the psychiatrists are going to court. SW can do that and plenty of inpatient units don't take involuntary patients. Also, after COVID many courts moved to Zoom or teleconference, so can be done remotely.
Finishing at 8 PM every day sounds rough. Though I suppose the 800k/year and mostly virtual set-up somewhat makes up for it...
Yeah... Would not mind finishing around 8pm in the comfort of my home while getting paid 750-800k/yr for it. I think that person has a great job especially if one is 1099 that will allow him/her to decrease its tax burden.
Sounds good until you have kids or a spouse and you're missing dinner every single weeknight.
Isn't one of these jobs telemedicine (at home)?
I am a hospitalist (IM). I have not done telemedicine but I heard they are flexible, so taking 30-60 minutes breaks to do family business should no be out of the norm.
It is, but if you're seeing two patients an hour for 8 hours how much down time are you going to have?
Are you working as well? What’s your setup?
How many patients are you seeing over how long a period of time?
Is it me or does 30 min for an intake feel like it's bordering on subpar care? Not judging, just wondering if I'm the only one who thinks this is too quick.
Wait can you explain that a little? If the patients are scheduled for 30 min follow up couldn’t they all be psychotherapy add ons?
I think moderate mdm is pretty easy to do in a stable patient in 2-3 minutes.
On the tele days I see 2 pph scheduled. 9 clinical hours but paid for 11. see 13-15 total avg. Again, this is a hybrid role. Compared to my PP days this is a retirement job as I am seeing double the volume so it balances out.
I am in a blue state and we do zoom court for medication petition I have never gone for involuntary stays. We do inperon court now only if a patient requests it. I do a lot of involuntary med petitions unfortunately for me. And I still normally can wrap up a day by 2.
You can still get done if you do court especially if you only have one inpatient job with the court and be done at a decent time normally if I get the am slot I can be done before noon with my inpatient and court for the day.
That seems so bizarre to me why would SW ever be going to court when you are the one filling out the paper work and it is your order holding someone either inpatient or ordering involuntary meds
Literally working 12 hours days being held to having to sit and work even if it is at home. Find a better way to mash together jobs with full autonomy and get efficient with good teams in place to allow you to be done and have time to yourself. 5-6hrs of work in a day is my sweet spot. Enough work to have fun and be semi busy but not pulling my hair out but easily enough time to workout and relax
Not insane no. The RVU target is high if you are splitting the unit and going every other week (obviously that's 4654 RVUs for full time). Unless you are able to bill psychotherapy add-on codes with the inpatient codes. Conversely, 19 beds is a lot for one attending even with multiple residents, I cannot imagine any academic center I know that would staff in that manner except if someone was sick/on vacation.
I wish I could do the split job for 290k straight, but working in the academic unit automatically puts me in the RVU group. The RVU target did seem on the higher end from the quick math I was doing but it is consistent with the current attending's full time target but he is within his first year so doesn't have a clear picture of the RVUs.
Is there a cap on the 401k match amount?
No cap.
I mean that makes the pay a decent bit better. Many jobs have a cap between 10 and 20k. That's 20-30k additional compensation over most comparison jobs I've heard of.
Just spoke with a current attending, they’re full time with a 5600 target, covering 8-12 patients and said they reached it no issue.
I think you need to be more granular in the dissection of what the offer is. This is a common mistake I see among doctors (usually younger) where they just look at projected overall comp and leave it at that.
