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Can anyone say more or less the average income of each subspecialty???

I ask this because I have heard that some subspecialties make less than the general ophtha...

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Can anyone say more or less the average income of each subspecialty???

I ask this because I have heard that some subspecialties make less than the general ophtha...

Thanks

It depends on several things. There's a huge variation in income based on geography. I recently saw an offer for just under $300k starting in a rural area for general.

But yes, some subspecialities make less. Neuro-oph, for example, often doesn't make much. At many departments, their pay is partially supported by revenue from other specialists, but they are critical to a large department. It's also a difficult job that many don't like doing. That means you have job security, and you often have greater say in where you end up.

Dave
 
Informational sheet from healthcare group showed glaucoma, general, and average refractive surgeon (note average) were similar about 260k, retina like 400k note this is average or median, can't remember which many people were much higher. refractive best of class was 900k. and also note that these were just ball park figures, and just contracts and physicians they dealt with.
 
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Informational sheet from healthcare group showed glaucoma, general, and average refractive surgeon (note average) were similar about 260k, retina like 400k note this is average or median, can't remember which many people were much higher. refractive best of class was 900k. and also note that these were just ball park figures, and just contracts and physicians they dealt with.

Retina always takes the cake. Is it b/c there is so few of them or b/c the surgeries are more demanding or is it b/c the bread-butter procedures compensate better? There are fewer occuloplastic guys but they don't make as much. Some insight would be appreciated!
 
I think it is mostly because of the $$$ these surgeons can make. Glaucoma and cornea surgery can be demanding too, as well as anterior segment surgery. People tend to flock where the money is.

If you reduce retina to $200,000/year max, then I can assure you there will be less demand. ;)
 
I hear that oculoplastics is also on the high side of the ophtho spectrum. One fellow I know has been looking at jobs that have a starting salary in the 400s in small towns. When you add cosmetic surgery to that, the fees go up, and it is all in cash, so you have no insurance companies to worry about...
 
I hear that oculoplastics is also on the high side of the ophtho spectrum. One fellow I know has been looking at jobs that have a starting salary in the 400s in small towns. When you add cosmetic surgery to that, the fees go up, and it is all in cash, so you have no insurance companies to worry about...

But the thing with occulo is that you have fierce competition from ENT amd plastic guys. Retina doesn't seem to have its turf coincide with any other field (that i know of at least).
 
While retina has the highest average, cornea has many of the ophthalmologists who are making the most nationally. The high-profile, high-volume refractive guys can make a ton, especially in places like southern CA. Of course, now it's tough to get into those markets.

Dave
 
Retina docs earn more because their average OR procedure, usually a vit/endolaser/bubble or buckle pays better on most reimbursement scales, including Medicare, than other typical procedures. Office procedures typically bill better, and most exams are at least level 4 E/M. Retina docs have no business competition except one another. All that adds up. Cataract surgeons can earn well only if they have volume and are efficient, skilled surgeons with low complication rates. Working in a cooperative outpatient surgery center that provides two rooms on an operating day is part of the requirement. Plastics generally does not earn better than general. Plastics cases take longer to do well and, although they may qualify for multiple CPT codes for a given surgery, the discounts imposed on second and third codes applied do not compensate for the additional time that those procedures require. Operating in the office setting is a mixed blessing and much depends on how well you can get reimbursed for the materials costs. In many places it simply does not make good practice business sense to do this. And the poster above is correct, where oculoplastics is able to perform cash-paid elective cosmetic procedures, there is plenty of other well-funded competition: general plastics, ENT, OMFS, dermatologists and even family practitioners.
 
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