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what does this hve to do with anything? nothing. my interns are cool. i'm just telling people to think and to be realisitc about becoming residents when they have a long-to non shot. i guess that makes be a bad resident. sorry, my bad. i'll go back to torturing the interns now.
DB out
Do you take the same outlook for your patients?
Oh your chance of walking is only 50%, if the surgery is successful...so I am just going to cut your leg off now...
I wish I knew where you are so I scratch your hospital off my list
Do you take the same outlook for your patients?
Oh your chance of walking is only 50%, if the surgery is successful...so I am just going to cut your leg off now...
I wish I knew where you are so I scratch your hospital off my list
so am i a prick?
so get out of my face, dont question me, i dominate you
DB out
hahahaha, lowly pre-med laughing at you here
I dominate you? I didn't realize that doctors were internet tough guys too.
I didn't realize that doctors were internet tough guys too.
You know what... I'll be there have been a number of things that people have told you you could not do. Well, it sure sounds like you are determined and that will show up in test scores, interviews, personal statements. My husband is applying to orthopedics, and it is a different kind of program. If you are as hard headed and determined as you seem, if you can talk the talk and walk the walk, then study your butt off and get great USMLE scores. I'd say that 230 is fine, but 240s are even better. Go above and beyond... do some ortho research... do several rotations at ortho programs that you are interested in... and while you are there be the hardest worker and best buddy to everyone. If this is your dream don't settle for anything less.I am a Canadian/British citizen holding an HBA(Honors BA in Kinesiology and will have an MBBS (Bachelor of Med Bachelor of Surgery) British equivalent to MD in 4 months from now. I havent written my USMLE's yet cause but realize the score needs to be 230+. Many of you will probably tell me to forget about applying to Ortho considering my situation, but I ask all those with faith, what are my chances of getting into an Ortho program somewhere if say I get 230 on USMLE's, have a good application, and really dont care where I get in (Im doing for the love and not convenience) I am hellbent on trying till I get somewhere? I am a bull, i have a hard head, Orthopedics is the only thing i see myself doing in medicine, Id rather be in an another feild than be forced to forget ortho and pick a by the way specialty. I am willing to tell myself how much i like the taste of crap everyday till i get somewhere.
Any comments or advise would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
actually, yes, i do. i tell EVERYONE the truth, especially the patients. i dont ever let people believe something that is not true. i dont paint rosey pictures for them, i dont suggest that good things will happen when they are likely not going to, and i dont tell them that they're going to have a normal leg after a IIIC tibia. i tell them the unbiased truth and the odds as i know them best. i spell out all of the risks, benifits and liklihoods of each.
by your tone and example, you clearly demonstrate your ignorance of both ortho and medicine. there is a huge debate in ortho about whether people are better off with amputations after bad LE frx and there's a lot of evidence that says that some are
so am i a prick? maybe to you who live in the land of fairy tales and puppy dog tails, who think that a wish on a star will summon a flying unicorn. i know that my pts appriciate the realism and that i am straighforward and honest with them. in the end, they often end up with what they expected and you know what--most are pretty ok with it.
so get out of my face, dont question me, i dominate you
DB out
I like your honesty. Tell me, does age factor in when applying to an ortho residency? This was actually implied to me when I was still interviewing to get into med school and I told them that ortho was my interest. They basically told me to be realistic and aim for something else.
What would you say someone's chances are without any 3rd year honors? (all high passes)
Step 1 score is well above average.
went to us med school, got btw 190-200 step 1, have 6 publications in ortho, had 1 HP first two years, honored surgery, HP everything else. if i do significantly better say >220 on step 2 in july do i have any shot in gettin an ortho placement or am i just wasting my time.
went to us med school, got btw 190-200 step 1, have 6 publications in ortho, had 1 HP first two years, honored surgery, HP everything else. if i do significantly better say >220 on step 2 in july do i have any shot in gettin an ortho placement or am i just wasting my time.
ok premiergator .. if your score is below 200 you are well below the mean of about 215. do you have a chance? yes, but not a great one. you best bet is to chose your away rotations at places you think you have a shot. people who know you are more likely to take a chance. for those who have cut offs, i don't know of any that are below the national mean. the hardest step for you will be getting in the door for the interviews.
i am about being realistic. if you look at the match rate for non-matching applicants, it decreases the further away from the national average. in 2007, the percentage matching with board scores <200 was 28.6%, for 201-210 53.6%, and for 211-220 73.4%. there are the numbers, taking the risk is up to you.
Blesbok, take a look at the most recent data from NRMP:Is not having any published research going to hurt my application?
I have research experience in ortho at a nationally known clinic. I was a research coordinator and clinical assistant for 3 projects performed at this clinic, however they were huge multi site projects, so none of them have my name on them. I also have letters of recommendation from an ortho surgeon at that clinic and from the ex-VP of DePuy who now leads the clinic's research.
Do you think this will make up for not having my name on anything?
P.S. The average Step 1 score for matched US seniors into ortho in 2007 was 234, NOT 215 as another poster said.
i think this was in reference to my posting about the mean being around 215. that would be the national mean. previously the national mean for a year would be closer to 200 with a standard deviation of around 20. now the national mean is higher with a standard deviation of who knows.
the ortho mean varies, but has consistently stayed over 230 for the last few years. this is almost 1 standard deviation above the mean (84th percentile). these are just estimations because they don't give us the numbers any more.
Hi, I'm a third year and wondering what are my chances for ortho. I had 250+ Step 1, AoA as a junior, and lots of activities. I honored most of my 1 and 2nd year and did not honor as many in my rotations as I could because my problem is that I'm a little too quiet and does not like to suck up so my clinical grades are not great but written reviews are excellent. I also did not do research in medical school but did some in undergrad and I did medical missions instead. I'm very diligent and does well once I get to know the people but I am wondering how I would do since i'm more of a quiet type.
Thanks for the reply
i normally hate posting in these types of threads, but i figure any advice is good advice.
-DO student at TCOM
-USMLE step1 = 240/99
-8 or 9 orthopedics publications, 1 podium and a few poster presentations at AAOS and TOA conferences and have worked in ortho research for a few years
-top 25% of my class (was ranked 12/160 after MS1 but don't know how much i've moved in MS2)
-will be able to at least do a sub-I at JPS and UTMB (tried at UTSW but my mentor there flat out said no)
-just started rotations but my school doesn't do honors, only p/f with a recorded numerical grade (so i'm going to try to rock my shelfs and clinicals)
i am generally extroverted and social w/o being obnoxious and usually get along with residents, attendings, nurses, etc. i know i should probably take step2 in june/july and make sure i do well on that, but my question here is whether i need to do anything else beyond my current plan during MS3?
actually i'm not quite sure. people are always saying you should take step2 early if you need an extra boost to your app (provided you do well). i figure as a DO applying to MD residencies, i'll need as many boosts as i can get.
You have a 68% chance of matching to any ortho program, and a 23% chance of matching to a top tier program.how realistic of a chance do I have
You have a 68% chance of matching to any ortho program, and a 23% chance of matching to a top tier program.
So...I am currently an M1 at UCSD and am very interested in pursuing ortho. I hae already begun searching for summer research opportunities around the country; however, one fellow at Mayo told me it might not be a bad idea to focus research opportunities here. His reasonsing was that this would allow me to develop a rapport with residents and attendings before my rotation and only allow me to enhance it when I begin clinicals and so forth. I see the value in this, but what if one knows he/she would like to go elsewhere for residency?
Any feedback would be awesome!!!!
Thanks guy and gals...
much respect...
riceman04
I'm contemplating where to go to med school, and am wondering which out of the above schools would be best when applying for residency programs in either orthopedic or plastic surgery. Thanks in advance.
I'm contemplating where to go to med school, and am wondering which out of the above schools would be best when applying for residency programs in either orthopedic or plastic surgery. Thanks in advance.
Current 3rd year
step 1: 211
class ranK: top half
3rd yr clerkships: 2 PC+ and 2 H so far, currently on surg
inspiration: scholarship collegiate athlete- basketball (mvp of team, voted player of the year in conference)
non-ortho research (case reports, chart reviews, etc)
volunteer: lots of time spent at Shriner's and working sports events at my school